{"id":21350,"date":"2020-02-27T17:03:09","date_gmt":"2020-02-27T16:03:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quitt.ch\/?p=21350"},"modified":"2024-04-17T09:35:35","modified_gmt":"2024-04-17T07:35:35","slug":"can-a-domestic-helper-settle-the-ahv-itself","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quitt.ch\/en\/can-a-domestic-helper-settle-the-ahv-itself\/","title":{"rendered":"Can a domestic helper \u00absettle the AHV itself\u00bb?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">Most cleaning staff who claim to &#8220;settle the\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">social security deductions\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">themselves&#8221; work\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">illegal.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">If the cleaner cannot\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">submit<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">a confirmation from the\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">Cantonal C<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">ompensation\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">Office (SVA)\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">that\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">she or\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">he is self-employed for\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">this specific\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">job,\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW26455869 BCX7\">both are liable to prosecution.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"EOP SCXW26455869 BCX7\" data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"TextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\">Definition of\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\">a\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\">\u00ab<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\">self-employed person<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW266276967 BCX7\">\u00bb<\/span><\/span><span class=\"EOP SCXW266276967 BCX7\" data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Under social security law, self-employed persons are defined as persons who work under their own name<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">for their own account\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">and\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">bear their own economic risk. <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Self-employed persons are examined and assessed by the Compensation Office. The examination is approved exclusively for a specialist\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Subject area\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">under various conditions.\u00a0<\/span><strong>In the Swiss\u00a0social insurance law\u00a0Domestic work is always considered as\u00a0a direct\u00a0employment.<\/strong><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">T<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">herefore,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">t<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">here are\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">no self-employed cleaning\u00a0<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">persons in Switzerland<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"TextRun SCXW136970906 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW136970906 BCX7\">What would be the theoretical effects on wages and social security contributions?<\/span><\/span><span class=\"EOP SCXW136970906 BCX7\" data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:240}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"TextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\">Whether the domestic help is\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\">correctly<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\">\u00a0registered as an employee or self-employed would\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\">not necessarily have any effect on the wage<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\">\u00a0(the deductions are the same)<\/span><\/span><span class=\"TextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"auto\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW253648581 BCX7\">. Self-employment would, however, require that the &#8220;cleaner&#8221; has her own car and certainly always takes her own cleaning agents and aids (vacuum cleaner, broom, iron etc.) with her (analogous to a cleaning company). She also has several clients. In the case of a self-employed cleaner, the cleaner would charge the total costs.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<h2>Further articles on the topic<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quitt.ch\/en\/ahv-registration-for-your-cleaner-facts-you-need-to-know\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u2192 Cleaner to be registered at the AHV (AVS*) scheme: important facts<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quitt.ch\/en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25159\" src=\"https:\/\/quitt.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/learn-more-en-4.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"103\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quitt.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/learn-more-en-4.png 400w, https:\/\/quitt.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/learn-more-en-4-300x77.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/my.quitt.ch\/en\/signUp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-25156 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/quitt.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/register-now-en-3.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"103\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quitt.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/register-now-en-3.png 400w, https:\/\/quitt.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/register-now-en-3-300x77.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Most cleaning staff who claim to &#8220;settle the\u00a0social security deductions\u00a0themselves&#8221; work\u00a0illegal.\u00a0If the cleaner cannot\u00a0submit\u00a0a confirmation from the\u00a0Cantonal Compensation\u00a0Office (SVA)\u00a0that\u00a0she or\u00a0he is self-employed for\u00a0this specific\u00a0job,\u00a0both are liable to prosecution.\u00a0 Definition of\u00a0a\u00a0\u00abself-employed person\u00bb Under social security law, self-employed persons are defined as persons who work under their own name,\u00a0for their own account\u00a0and\u00a0bear their own economic risk. Self-employed&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":17,"featured_media":24860,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[379,15],"tags":[],"post_series":[],"class_list":["post-21350","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ahv-en","category-seniorenbetreuung","entry","has-media"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.5 (Yoast SEO v26.5) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Can a domestic helper \u00absettle the AHV itself\u00bb? - quitt.<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Most cleaning staff who claim to &quot;pay the AHV themselves&quot; work in the black economy. 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